Kentucky Dateline Articles
- Footnotes in History -

While searching through old microfilm looking for information on past Kentucky games, it's hard to not be distracted by all the other tidbits of information which catch your eye, both inside and outside sports. Often there are some interesting bits of information which do relate to UK basketball in some way or things which are not well known but turn out to be significant in some way.

I try to note this type of infomation when I see it, and have taken a few of them and written them up as posts to Cat-Chat to provide a different dimension to the topics (and to help pass away the dog days of summer.) Below I've taken some of these posts and put them together in one place and with some additional links and graphics. Some of the information is interesting, some important points in history (whether it was known at the time or not) and some is just goofy. Hope you enjoy them.

Dateline February 14, 1908 - Skating through History

As part of going through old microfilm looking for UK boxscores, sometimes you run across things which just tease you. Especially the early part of the century where information is hard to find (if it's even there) and doesn't give a lot of detail. It seems newspapers during those times were formatted a lot differently than they are today or even as they were in the decades to follow.

For example, instead of lengthy articles, the newspapers seemed to be composed of mainly short one or two paragraph snippets about various topics scattered across the page. To make things even more frustrating when trying to locate specific items, the topics were not really organized into identifiable sections as you see today's newspapers. So it wouldn't be surprising to find mention of a basketball game located just about anywhere. Next to a marriage annoucement, details of a farm accident or a recipe for an ointment, it doesn't seem to matter where it went.

Anyway, below is a small article I happened to run across while glancing through some microfilm looking for UK games in 1908. From the Friday February 14, 1908 Lexington Leader:

A couple notes from this.

1.) As you might have guessed, there is no official record of such a game played on February 17 in the UK record book. [and no record of State College (UK) playing the high school that year] So if it was played, it would be one which has not been reported to date.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/1907-08.html

2.) Unfortunately from looking at the Monday & Tuesday papers (the day of and day after the game was supposed to be held), there is no mention of it (if it was played at all) at least in the Leader.

3.) Playing on skating rinks apparently wasn't an unheard of thing. Judging from the advertisements of the time, it seems skating was a pretty popular past-time in Kentucky at the turn of the century and it would seem a skating rink would be an ideal place to hold a basketball game, given the crude state of gymnasiums at the time. [I did a quick web search on the history of roller skating and it claims the first practical roller skate was developed by someone in Massachusetts in 1863 and over the next 20 years, it became popular in the US]

Centre College around that time used to play at a place called the Danville Rink. Advertisements for the Rink would mention the game time, and then say that you could skate before and after the contest. And I recently found from a Vanderbilt list that one of Vanderbilt's early gymnasiums (the Hippodrome in Nashville) where they played in the 1930's and early 1940's, was also a roller rink.

FWIW, in the same paper was an advertisement for the Mammoth in Lexington which gives some more information.

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Dateline January 30, 1917 - The Goat-Boy Strikes !

There's really no good reason to post this story about UK's game against Rose Polytechnic, but hopefully some will enjoy it. The game was unimportant and a blow-out. But I thought I'd mention it anyway because it does strike some interesting visual images and I think is the best I've seen at commenting on the rough play during those times.

Here's the link to the game,

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19170130RosePolytechnic.html

First of all, the beat writer (Tom Underwood) that wrote the game summary is one of the more entertaining UK beatwriters I've seen coming out of the Lexington Herald. If you like the style of this story, I'd suggest reading all his stories from that year. (Be sure to check out future Western coach Ed Diddle's tactics during free throws while he played for Centre a few games prior to this game)

The story also makes any interesting reference to the style of play the Rose squad employed. Back then, most teams kept at least one player back to defend the goal, the back guard. UK even had a player (Ellis Johnson) win all-american honors for his ability to play this position [it couldn't have been for his scoring, he averaged 3.3 ppg in his career] Sometimes the back guard would sneak up near half-court and pop a long shot (the courts were generally much smaller than they are today) but generally stayed back and weren't much of an offensive threat. The Roses instead brought a new method of attack which Underwood thought novel enough to comment on. They brought all five guys onto the offensive end at the same time ! Underwood writes:

I found that interesting to see how thoroughly unimpressed Underwood was with this tactic, which although it would take at least another decade (not sure exactly when things changed significantly) would overtake offensive philosophy.

Finally, the story goes into some detail about the rough nature of the game at that time. The goat reference if priceless IMO. I have to wonder what constituted a foul back then ? Incidentally, the referee for that game, was Robert Hinton, coach of the Georgetown team (who had played and beat Rose Poly the night before in a rough game). It sounds strange today but at least at that time, it was not unusual that a coach of another team would be called to referee a game. For example, when Centre and UK played, the Georgetown coach would often officiate. When UK and Georgetown played, the Centre coach would be called to duty. I've seen where former UK coaches would come back the next year and officiate a game, likewise former UK players would be called on to toot the whistle. John DeMoisey (former UK All-American) seems to have been an official for many years after he left UK and called many UK games. (Of course more recently, George Conley (father of UK player Larry) used to officiate games Kentucky played in during the 60's, but that's not quite the same.)

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Dateline January 1918 - Old Man Winter 1, Wildcats 0 or The Curse of the Miami Big Reds

Sometimes things just aren't meant to be. At the beginning of the 1918 season, Kentucky was scheduled to travel by train to Miami (OH) University for a game. They never made it however. Here is the story as published in the Kentucky Kernal, 1/17/1918

The game was never rescheduled for that year. They did play however, the following year. Here is the pregame for that which talks about more hardships in getting these two schools together.

Published 3/16/1919 in the Kentucky Kernal

As is turned out, the game wasn't worth the wait for the Wildcats. They were swamped 38-14. :-(

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19190308MiamiOH.html

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Dateline February 26, 1922 - A Fork in the Road

From the February 26, 1922 Lexington Herald:

I found this article interesting on a number of levels. For one, the article doesn't mention this but Kentucky was already part of the SIAA (which later became the Southern Conference which later split into the SEC and ACC) at the time. If UK had joined this midwest conference, the entire backdrop would have changed from a Southern university to a midwestern one. I wonder how things would have played out in this scenario in terms of UK building its basketball legacy. This conference would have gone up against the well established Western Conference (which later became known as the Big Ten).

I also found it very interesting and even prophetic Rockne's quotes about how people view teams which don't subject themselves to the rules and regulations of a governing body, seeing how Notre Dame has been one of the biggest holdouts in terms of joining a conference (and remains so today wrt football).

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Dateline February 9, 1923 - Stung by Cupid's Arrow

published in February 9, 1923 Kentucky Kernal

FWIW, Fest, who was the team captain, stayed on for the remainder of the year. Married life must have been good for him as he had two of his best games of his career, 17 points against Tennessee (likely his career high) a day after the above article was published and 14 against Sewanee in the season finale.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/1922-23.html

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Dateline January 1926 - Scouting Goes High Tech

from the Kentucky Kernal in late January

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Dateline February 4, 1926 - A Surprise at the Door

On February 4, 1926 was played one of the most unexpected games in UK's history when the Washington & Lee basketball squad (coming all the way from Lexington, Virginia) showed up in the morning at the Athletic Director's door and claimed they had a game against UK that evening. This was news to UK and they had to scramble to put together the match in time. UK went on to win the game. Here is the boxscore.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19260205WashingtonLee.html

Below is the game summary as written in the Lexington Herald.

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Dateline June 28, 1928 - Washed Away

One event that is little known, which potentially affected the history of Kentucky's basketball program happened not in any game, but during the off-season. In the summer of 1928, the city of Lexington endured numerous rainfalls which left the ground saturated with water. On June 28, 1928, a torrential downpour led to flooding throughout the city.

Downtown Lexington

Alumni Gymnasium was not immune to the flooding, having been built in a relatively low point near an area of campus which was once a shallow lake.

Water reportedly reached the playing surface. But more significantly, the basketball offices were housed in the basement of the building, which was completely immersed. Whatever records that had been accumulated on the program to date were completely destroyed. Soon thereafter, Adolph Rupp came onto the scene and completely changed the program's fortunes. What occurred prior to Rupp's arrival was quickly relegated to the far past. Only decades later when Russell Rice began to research UK's history was much of the information on the early years reconstructed. A task made significantly more difficult due to the loss of information that summer of 1928.

Alumni Gymnasium was awash in the Summer of 1928

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Dateline November 29, 1932 - A Longer Bed

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Dateline February 14, 1938 - A Shot from Above

Many I'm sure are familiar with the movie Field of Dreams, where Kevin Costner hears the voice "Build it, and they will come." But did you know that Kentucky has a similar type of story in it's vast history ?

Joe Hagan
The year was 1938 and Kentucky was hosting a very strong Marquette team. The game came down to the wire and with the score tied and in the waning moments, Joseph "Red" Hagan let loose a 48-foot shot which gave UK the win. This was the game where the Governor of the State, A.B. "Happy" Chandler bounded out of the stands after the victory was sealed and drove a nail in the spot where the shot was taken. Apparently Hagan shot the ball out of divine inspiration. The following from the Lexington Herald:

One important thing to note about this shot was that Hagan shot it with plenty of time left on the clock for Marquette to come back and tie the game (unlike, for example Vernon Hatton's shot vs. Temple where he had no choice but to shoot because the time was nearly out.) With his taking such an improbable shot and giving Marquette a chance to score, the odds were running heavily toward him being the goat. In fact, even though Hagan made the shot, Marquette did have multiple chances to at least tie the score, but they failed on each occassion. You can read more about that game at the following link:

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19380214Marquette.html

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Dateline March 4, 1938 - The Greenies Strike

Ran across a game summary from the late 1930's that I found interesting. This UK squad was undefeated in the conference, although they did lose a few out of conference games.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/1937-38.html

What I found interesting was not so much the game itself but a paragraph deep in the text.

For those who didn't catch it, that tournament UK missed was the inagural National Invitational Tournament, which predated the NCAA tournament by one year. In those early days, the field consisted of 2 local New York teams, 2 Eastern teams and 2 from the Midwest or Far West. That particular field included NYU and Long Island, Temple and Bradley (presumably this counted as an Eastern team ?) along with Oklahoma A & M and Colorado. Temple won that tournament.

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Dateline January 21, 1939 - A Familiar Face Returns

With the impending arrival of Rick Pitino in Lexington to coach a game against the Big Blue and all the hub-bub that's going to (and already has) create. Some may not know that this is NOT the first time a former head coach at UK came back to coach against his former team. It's happened before.

John Mauer
John Mauer, the successful coach before Rupp, left UK and went to Miami of Ohio where he coached until he took the job at Tennessee where he had some tense battles with Kentucky and Adolph Rupp. Mauer later coached at Florida also.

So I thought it appropriate to mention what happened when Mauer returned to Lexington for the first time. Here's some snippets from the (admittedly tame) pre-game story by the Lexington Herald's Ed Ashford:

Perhaps a bad omen, but Kentucky played poorly that game and Tennessee was able to escape with an upset on UK's homecourt. Here's the boxscore and game writeup.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19390121Tennessee.html

In fact, of the first 15 games played between Mauer and Rupp, Mauer held his own with a 7-8 record. This included two UK losses in the SEC tournament championship game. I wouldn't like to see how UK fans would handle a similar scenario with "Traitor" Rick ?

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Dateline December 21, 1939 - We're Here, Where's the Gym ?

The city of Asheville NC was looking to open a newly built Municipal Auditorium in the winter of 1939. The building, constructed at a cost of nearly $250,000, was paid for by donations from the local community along with money from the city and grants from the Public Works Administration. The land for the auditorium was donated, and sat next to the existing Vanderbilt hotel.

The 1939 conference champions of the Southern Conference (Clemson) and the Southeastern Conference (Kentucky) were invited to Asheville to inagurate the newly built arena.

The game was held December 21 of 1939. The only problem is that the newly built auditorium was not yet ready. An alternative gymnasium was used for the event, that of the American Enka Corporation which was a local dye company. The Enka gymnasium had been built a few years earlier in 1937.

The game went on and Kentucky won a convincing 55-31 victory. The Asheville Municipal Auditorium was opened a few weeks later, although Kentucky never got to play in it, and in fact has never returned to the city.

Asheville Auditorium next to the Vanderbilt Hotel

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Dateline January 7, 1940 - Donkey Basketball at its finest

From the January 7, 1940 Lexington Herald

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Dateline - March 14, 1942 - A Game Played for a Cause

March 1942, the United States was getting back on its feet and preparing for a long war, having just weathered a surprise attack by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor a few months before and declaring war on enemies on each side. To help with the effort, a game was scheduled between Kentucky and the Great Lakes Naval Station in Louisville to raise funds for the Navy Relief Society.

Lee Huber
Kentucky, along with most every school, ended up playing a number of military bases during this time period. But this was no ordinary military base. The Naval Station, based outside Chicago on Lake Michigan, boasted an impressive athletic tradition, which included some historic football teams.

https://www.ntcgl.navy.mil/history/1943football.html

The teams put together by the Naval Station during the second world war was literally a who's who of former college basketball players prior to the war. The team UK faced in 1942 had no less than six former All-Americans, including Lee Huber who had been an All-American at Kentucky under coach Adolph Rupp. The others were "Junie" Andres and Bill Menke (Indiana U), Frank Baumholtz (Ohio U), Bob Calihan (Detroit) and Dick Klein (Northwestern)

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19420314GreatLakes.html

Also on that team was Forrest (Forddy) Anderson of Stanford who went on to be a well-respected coach at Bradley and Michigan State.

UK facing 6 players who held All-American status may well be a record. One team which may give them a run for their money is the Great Lakes team of the following year.

That team again featured Dick Klein but also had former All-Americans Ed Riska (Notre Dame) Bob Davies (Seton Hall) George "the blind bomber" Glamack (North Carolina), Forrest Sprowl (Purdue) and Gilbert Huffman (Tennessee).

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19430306GreatLakes.html

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Dateline - January 24, 1943 - Recruiting them Young

Warning: This message only has a very slight link to UK. It talks about former Notre Dame coach Elmer Ripley and some of his players (which included ND player Billy Hassett) and was IMO quite an amazing story. I ran across this article, and having recently written the series history between Notre Dame and UK recognized the names.

As an aside, Hassett played for Ripley when Notre Dame played UK in 1946

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19460126NotreDame.html

and earlier played against UK while Clem Crowe was the coach at Notre Dame.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19450127NotreDame.html

If you read the series history, you might remember that after George Keogan died in the early 1940's, Notre Dame went through a string of coaches.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/rivalNotreDame.html

Anyway, this article doesn't deal with Notre Dame or UK at all, but with what happened prior to that when Hassett and Ripley were at Georgetown in Washington DC. From the Lexington Herald-Leader in 1943.

A couple things I found noteworthy, beyond the main fact that these schoolboys ended up playing for and succeeding with Ripley.

FWIW, I sent that article to a guy who runs a very good historical website devoted to Georgetown and he wasn't aware of the story, even though he's written a short (but interesting) history of the Georgetown program.

http://www.hoyabasketball.com/narrative.htm

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Dateline January 1, 1945 - Quizzing the Kitty

from the Lexington Herald, January 1, 1945 while UK was in New York City playing Clair Bee's Long Island Blackbirds after winning a squeaker over Temple in Philadelphia a few nights before and Wyoming before that (in Buffalo NY of all places).

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Dateline February 28, 1947 - Sometimes you have to leave some behind

from the February 28, 1947 Louisville Courier Journal:

Postscript - Kentucky went on to win the SEC Tournament that year by beating Auburn (84-18), Georgia Tech (75-53) and Tulane (55-38)., despite Alex Groza being less than effective with a lame back. Kentucky went on to participate in the NIT that year, but Brannum was again missing from the traveling squad as he had decided to transfer to Michigan State. The following year, Brannum and the Spartans nearly upset Kentucky's Fabulous Five in a packed Jenison Fieldhouse. Brannum went on to play six years in the NBA.

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Dateline December 30, 1950 - In Remembrance of a (Chump)ion

In December of 1950, the Herald ran a short article talking a little bit about this inglorious season in UK history. (along with a team photo which I haven't seen anywhere else)

So in the name of remembering the good with the bad when it comes to UK's history, here's the article.

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Dateline March 21, 1952 - Pulling Back the Welcome Mat

Some may have seen that in the 1952 NCAA Tournament, No. 1 ranked Kentucky got beat by No. 10 St. John's in Raleigh, at the North Carolina State's Reynolds Coliseum.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19520322StJohns.html

This was a huge upset, as earlier in the year, Kentucky hosted St. Johns in Lexington and won the game convincingly 81-40.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19511217StJohns.html

According to Tev Laudemann's book, The Rupp Years

Solly Walker
Some may question why the teams were staying in a dormitory in the first place. As it turns out, there's a story behind that. Lexington Herald editor Ed Ashford mentioned it in his Saturday morning March 22 column, "It Says Here--."

Ashford wrote:

Program
While there had been a few times before 1952 when NCAA regionals were held in the South, this was the first time they hosted black players, among them Solly Walker of St. John's and Jesse Arnelle of Penn State. (Arnelle would score 25 points against UK in the earlier round game and would in later years earn All-American honors.)

In McGuire's book, Frank McGuire - The Life and Times of a Legend, it mentions a part of this episode in history although it doesn't mention the dormitories at all (which actually leads to questions whether the black players even stayed in the dormitories or not). [I should mention that McGuire's recollections don't always square with other information I find from other sources.]

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Dateline December 12, 1953 - Somethin' Just ain't Right

It looked like just your typical thrashing of the Xavier Musketeers by the Kentucky Wildcats. Frank Ramsey scored 27 points and Kentucky won the game going away 81-66.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19531212Xavier.html

Typical except for one detail which postponed the game for a number of minutes. According to Ed Ashford's column in the Lexington Herald-Leader:

Cincinnati Gardens

JPS Note: In an interview in the 1970's, Rupp mentioned the incident and gave Cliff Hagan full credit for noticing the goals were not set properly.

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Dateline March 19, 1966 - Not a whole lot new under the sun

Included in the aftermath of UK's loss to Texas Western in the 1966 National Championship game, Lexington Herald Sports Editor Billy Thompson wrote a couple of snippets in his 'Pressbox Pickups' column concerning the earlier game with Duke.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/19660318Duke.html

You can file these under 'these sound familiar, haven't I seen these recently ?' So much for originality !

From the March 20th, 1966 Lexington Herald.

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Dateline January 9, 1969 - The Race for 1,000 Victories

As the 1968-69 Season progressed, the 1,000 Victory mark came within the sights of both the University of Kentucky and Kansas, with Oregon State close behind. These teams had been vying for the top spot in all-time victories since the early 1960's when Kentucky challenged Kansas' historic lead and overtook Kansas briefly only to see the Jayhawks pull back and make it a neck-and-neck race for a number of seasons.

Article from Albuqueque (NM) Journal, January 8, 1969
Kentucky started the 1968-69 season with 987 victories according to the NCAA's official records, while Kansas began with 985 victories. The race to being the first to reach the historic milestone of 1,000 victories would be one that was full of not only drama but also some dispute over the true totals.

The dispute originated in 1966 after Kentucky's National Runners-up Season where the team was invited to the World University Games, held in Tel Aviv Israel. Kentucky entered the international competition against University teams from around the world and won the event, going 5-0.

Kentucky coach, Adolph Rupp considered the games to be legitimate victories to add to both Kentucky's and his all-time record, especially considering that UK was representing the United States at the NCAA's urging. "If they (the games) weren't important enough to count, why did they send us!" asked Rupp. The NCAA was petitioned to update their records to account for the game, but never did so.

Rupp was winding down a career which saw him break records, and with each record there was now a difference of five games between what Kentucky recognized and what the NCAA did. On January 6, 1969, Kentucky beat Mississippi State in Starkville and celebrated what they considered to be an historic milestone. They ate a small cake at their hotel room to mark the event, but the following game against Florida in Lexington celebrated the 1000-victories with "a gigantic white cake." Representatives from each decade were on-hand. After lighting the candles, the cake was in danger of melting so the UK players rushed the court and blew them out.

Kentucky Players blow out the candles

But to the rest of the world, Kentucky and Kansas we're still locked in a tight battle for the legitimate honor. According to the article shown at the right (published on January 8), Kansas stood at 997 victories to Kentucky's 995. The Jayhawks were considered the odds-on favorites to achieve the mark first, except for two things:

The first setback to the Jayhawks was they unexpectedly began to lose games. First Kansas was beaten by their arch-nemesis Missouri on January 11 and then got beat by Iowa State two days later (a team the Jayhawks had just beaten the week before by 33 points). Meanwhile Kentucky continued to slice through the Southeastern Conference and steadily made up ground.

Kentucky vs. Kansas
Table showing chronologically game-by-game cumulative wins using the NCAA numbers prior to the start of the 1968-69 season.
But what sealed the fate of the Jayhawks was the fact that they had loaded up their schedule in the early part of the season (having played three more games than UK had up to the point of the article) and were due for some downtime. After their win on January 18th against Kansas State (to give them victory #998), Kansas didn't have another game scheduled until February 1, nearly two weeks later.

Meanwhile Kentucky continued to win and assumed the title with a victory over Alabama (with Rupp's former player C.M. Newton coaching the Tide and facing his mentor for the first time) on January 27, 1969. Of course, Kentucky didn't celebrate this milestone as they had already celebrated and eaten their cake three weeks earlier. Instead Kentucky was celebrating Rupp's 800th victory, a milestone which of course the NCAA failed to recognize . . . until five victories later.

(JPS Note #1: Due to adjustments made to the record over the years, this victory total is no longer correct. The adjusted record which is now the official NCAA record shows Kentucky with two more victories than they claimed previously, which means that the actual game Kentucky hit the 1,000-victory mark was in a game against Tennessee on January 18th.)


Postscript - It would be nice to end the story there, but there were some other factors as play. Below is a coin minted by the Franklin Mint to commemorate the event. As you may notice, the date shown is January 13, 1969. This date is a game against Georgia, not the earlier game (1/6/1969) against Mississippi State (which included the five games in Tel Aviv) and not the later game (1/27/1969) against Alabama.

Franklin Mint coin to commemorate UK's 1000th win. On the opposite face is a tribute to Rupp's 800th victory.
So what is causing this discrepancy ? Reportedly prior to the Florida game on January 11, Kentucky announced that they had searched through their archives and had found three additional unreported victories (and two losses). These wins were an 11-10 victory over the Lexington YMCA on Feb. 18, 1903, a 16-14 victory over Kentucky University (now Transylvania) on Feb. 15, 1907 and a 20-10 victory over Georgetown College Feb. 6 1904. (Note that the stated reason for finding these additional games was that the Media Guide at the time had a number of games without scores, and work was done to go back and better document this games. As part of this work, additional games were uncovered.)

The additional three victories meant that even discounting the five victories in Israel that the NCAA didn't recognize, that UK now claimed that their 1,000th victory came against the Georgia Bulldogs on January 13, 1969.


Postscript #2 - It's not clear when the NCAA approved these additional victories. One news article I found (on January 19th) stated that the NCAA had approved them and thus the victory over Georgia January 13th was the officially recognized 1,000th victory. Other articles claimed that the game against Alabama was the 1,000th. Regardless, two of the claimed victories (the one in 1903 and the one in 1907) are supported very well by newspaper accounts of the game, and did make it into the record book that is acknowledged today. The victory in 1904 against Georgetown was apparently based on information in the school yearbook, but that is not currently listed in the official record, so presumably the claim was not accepted and dropped.

The inclusion of these two verified games does not completely explain how UK's record at the time squares with the current total as it is known that subsequent changes were made. For example, a game against Louisville in 1914 was added to the official record in the early 1990's. Looking at Media Guides from the late 1960's to the 1970's as compared to today, it's clear that changes were made to the early years. Without going thoroughly through every subseqent media guide, it's very difficult to know when these changes were made, and more pertinent to me, why. (ie there may have been games that were dropped due to lack of first-hand evidence, which may have actually been played.)

I should note that for anyone who has spent any time digging through century-old microfilm looking for evidence of past games, it's not surprising in the least that previously undiscovered games can be found. It's actually to be expected given the lack of emphasis on basketball at the time and thus relatively poor record-keeping that was associated with it along with very poor communication when reporting game information. (especially accounting for the 1928 flood mentioned earlier in this page which literally wiped out all historical records at the time.)

All anyone needs to do is to locate an extremely old media guide for a school and compare the list of official games to what is claimed today. Most universities will have updated their list as the years go by and people have a chance to research the early eras.)

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